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Episode #14 – Dealing with Church Debt in a Replant with Boots on the Ground Guest Kyle Bueerman

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Episode #14 – Dealing with Church Debt in a Replant with Boots on the Ground Guest Kyle Bueerman
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Pastor Kyle Bueermann, First Baptist Church Alamogordo NM

Background: Kyle was called to Replant/Revitalize a church with 60 people that was in 900K in debt.

Q: How do you deal with debt in a Replant?

Be certain of your call: the call to Replant a church is a necessity-especially when that church is in a difficult situation.

Commit to the church: Kyle says; “We bought a house to show the congregation that we were all in, we put ourselves on the line, I knew I needed to do that so I wouldn’t have an out.”

Find/Partner with a friendly lender and communicate with them regularly. FBC had the benefit of their note being with their denominational lender.

Be open and honest about your situation with those who are coming to be part of your church.

Look for ways to reduce your debt: we’ve been praying and seeking sell our land but also exercising patience.

Steady consistent and faithful leadership is important to create a positive attitude and culture among your people.

We are confident that God is not surprised by our circumstances-and we’re trusting him to provide and lead.

Define Reality and provide hope, and understand the thing that brings hope is the Gospel.

Be patient-in a Replant nothing happens fast.

 

Links

Not Another Baptist Podcast

Replanting Rural Churches

Wiley Drake

Ed Ogeron

Arkansas vs. LSU 2019

Episode #8 – How to Handle Bad Business Meetings with Boots on the Ground Guest Evan Skelton

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Episode #8 – How to Handle Bad Business Meetings with Boots on the Ground Guest Evan Skelton
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Bob, JimBo and special guest Evan Skelton, discuss how to handle business meetings that go bad.

“What do you do or how do you handle it when something blows up in a Family “business” meeting at church?

When Conflict Breaks Out

  1. Realize it’s not the end of the world. Every relationship experiences conflict. Conflict is a sign that the church family feels like they can be honest.
  2. Seek to maintain your composure-don’t get “hooked” by strong emotions and statements or retreat in fear. 
  3. Have a “co-moderator” who can help if you lose composure, be ready to turn over to someone who can handle the meeting during tense times.
  4. Move in a pastoral way towards people, slowly and deliberately. 
  5. Confront public misbehavior publically and model appropriate biblical behavior during times of conflict.
  6. Pay attention to your responses: tone, posture, facial expressions and how you are coming across.
  7. Look for teaching opportunities that are inherent within conflict-call it out
  8. Acknowledge the difficulty of the moment, the feel of the room, when conflict breaks out.
  9. Resist the urge to never allow questions or comments during the meetings-redeem it and model for people who to ask questions.
  10. Center on the gospel, show people how to communicate with gospel grace.
  11. Allow members multiple ways to ask questions during the business or family meetings. (cards, email, text)
  12. Instruct members gently about how to handle conflict in public.
  13. Be willing to go to member’s homes to work out conflict if needed and necessary.

 

Proactive Responses

  1. Celebrate victories, show pictures and show how God is moving in the church?
  2. Let others share positive stories and testimonies about what God is doing and what is happening.
  3. Do business after celebration and testimonies.
  4. Slow walk-test out ideas with influencers and thought leaders in the congregation, get their feedback before bringing a potentially difficult agenda item.
  5. Invite critics to become an advocate.
  6. Eat dinner together before business meetings.
  7. Consider changing the name of your business meetings-to family meetings.
  8. Teach your people to operate in the fruit of the spirit rather than walking in the flesh. Let them know that if that is not possible and if things get contentious the meeting will end.

Evan Skelton Pastor, Bayless Baptist Church

Resources:

The Peacemaking Pastor by Alfred Poirier

When Church Conflict Happens by Michael Hare

If you Bite and Devour One Another by Alexander Strauch

Facing Snarls and Scows by Brian Croft and James Carroll

 

Episode #7 – How NOT to Build a Lasting Elder Team

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Episode #7 – How NOT to Build a Lasting Elder Team
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In a Replant high capacity and qualified leaders are likely to be in short supply.

Don’t let the urgent need for leaders be a primary driving process for your seeking to install Elders.

Do not confuse excitement and enthusiasm as good indicators that you may have found the right person to engage as a leader.

The past church experiences of the leaders you are considering installing as leaders matters, do not ignore conflict that occured in previous churches. Discern the circumstances, issues and let that inform your decision regarding their leadership.

An Elder process is important-develop one and stick to it.

Elders share the load and burden of ministry.  It is important to develop leaders/elders who work together, especially when you as a Replanter are needing help or hurting.

Lessons Learned

  1. Go slow 
  2. Give them some weight to bear-some guys just want to give advice rather than serve.
  3. Never give someone a position of leadership if they are not already serving.
  4. Spend time together as families, dinners, and parties. Observe how they interact with their spouse and children.
  5. Give them an area of ministry to lead, especially leading others.
  6. If you have pause or question regarding an Elder candidate, stop the process.
  7. Pray with and consult with your spouse regarding the candidates you are considering for Elders.
  8. Don’t install an Elder unless and until you have a conflict or disagreement with them and have resolved it successfully. 

Resources

Church Elders by Jeraime Rinne

Biblical Eldership by Alexander Strauch

The Trellis and the Vine by Colin Marshall and Tony Payne

The Shepherd Leader by Timothy Whitmer

ACME Janitorial

Episode #4 – When and How to Change Bylaws and Other Documents (Boots on the Ground Question from Wesley Lassiter)

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Episode #4 – When and How to Change Bylaws and Other Documents (Boots on the Ground Question from Wesley Lassiter)
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In this episode Bob and JimBo discuss a boots on the ground question sent in by Wesley Lassiter.

When is too soon to change the bylaws and other docs in a replant?

A lot of the answer will depend on the nature of a replant. Often in a replant as a campus or merger the legal documents will change very early in the process. This still needs to be walked with wisdom though.

In a revitalization or a replant from within there is much more to consider. But one of the big issues is to consider if ministry is being hindered by your documents. Mark Clifton addressees this topic well in one of his more recent Mondays with Mark – Is your church governance helping or hindering your replant?

If your docs are standing in the way of getting ministry done then you should consider suspending your bylaws for a season to have some transitional bylaws. There is some more info on how to do that in NAMB’s Associational Replanting Guide that Bob helped write.

Bob makes the point that more important than the bylaws would be a clear and strong church membership process. For this topic and more we would recommend reading through Replant Roadmap by Mark Hallock

Episode #3 – How NOT to Lead Facility Changes

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Episode #3 – How NOT to Lead Facility Changes
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In this episode Bob and JimBo start a new segment called, ‘Stupid Stuff We Did and Survived’. JimBo will share a few stories of how he unwisely led facility changes. We invite you to laugh at us and with us during this episode. Hopefully you will be encouraged and challenged as well.

Some things to consider in leading change well

  • Cast a vision for change, don’t just make changes. When people understand and believe in the ‘WHY’ behind changes it is easier for them to get on board.
  • Communicate and then communicate some more. You cannot over-communicate.
  • Have compassion for how change impacts people. (Jeff Iorg does a great job of talking about this in his book, ‘Leading Major Change‘).
  • Move to a system where everything does not have to be voted on, but you still need to give people a voice in the process.
  • Create a diverse team of people to help lead change in the church.

What are some of your stories of leading change that didn’t go well?

Episode #2 – Advice for Replanting Residents and Rookies (with Boots on the Ground Guest Jesse Peters)

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In this episode Bob and JimBo are joined by BOOTS ON THE GROUND GUEST Jesse Peters from Ebenezer Baptist Church in Henderson, NC. Jesse is helping start a replanting residency at his church and wanted to know what advice we would have for replanting residents and rookies.

Replanting is not easy work, but it also isn’t super complicated.

  • Visit Everyone in the Church
    • Make pastoral visits a high priority in your first year to get to know everyone in the congregation. Get an understanding of where they are spiritually, hear stories of the church and their lives. You need to know the sheep in order to shepherd the sheep.
  • Preach the Gospel
    • This is about more than your sermons. One of the primary objectives for a Replanter is to align everything the church does with the gospel. We recommend ‘Gospel Driven Church‘ by Jared Wilson as a great resource on this topic.
  • Reach Out to the Community
    • Get to know your community. Build relationships with people in the community. Make a difference in the community. Effective replant pastors work hard to move their churches to have a missional focus.
  • Find Some Men to Disciple
    • In Reclaiming Glory, Mark Clifton defines success in replanting as a church that is making disciples that makes disciples that make the community noticeably better.
  • Evaluate the Condition of Your Church
    • When you walk into a dying church there a lot of things that need to change, and you can’t change them all at once. Start evaluating and making a private list in your prayer journal. Take the initiative to help the church move forward as an organization.
  • Don’t Forget to Celebrate
    • As mentioned in the last point, you need to evaluate. But be careful not to let this give you a negative outlook. Find things to celebrate and find joy in celebration. Lead with celebration and encouragement.
  • Don’t Take Yourself Too Seriously
    • Have fun!! The weight of it all can make you feel like everything is make or break. The church you are pastoring has likely been in decline for a long time – one bad Sunday under your watch won’t kill it, trust us!
  • Find Some Friends! Encouragers
    • DO NOT WALK THIS ROAD ALONE!! Replanting is gritty and glorious work. There will be plenty of discouragement, work to build some relationships with people who are encouragers. Find other pastors who are farther along than you to walk this road with you. This is one of the biggest things that helped us survive our first five years.

What would you add??

Episode #1 – What is the Difference Between a Replant and a Revitalization?

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Episode #1 – What is the Difference Between a Replant and a Revitalization?
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In this episode Bob and JimBo discuss and define terms. This is one of the questions we get the most. What is the difference between a replant and a revitalization.

Replanting is a form of revitalization. Every replant is a revitalization, but not every revitalization is a replant.

REVITALIZATION = existing church + existing leaders + existing structure + history or legacy + renewed/new effort (over a protracted period of time)

REPLANT = new qualified/skilled leader + existing people + new structures/approaches + outside partners + new people + history

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