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Welcome back to the Bootcamp! Bob is another year older and Jimbo confesses he feels old too, but hey let’s jump in and get started. Today the guys are talking leadership and vision today and outlay some cautions for Visionary Leaders.  Have a question or comment?  Drop us a comment, send an email or leave us a voicemail with our questions or feedback.


Cautions for Visionary Leaders

  • Some Visionaries can be impulsive
    • Sit on big ideas for a day or two to make sure
    • Make big decisions with a team with feedback – not alone
    • Spend time praying about it
    • Consider times to lead the group in groupthink and let others pitch their ideas first
    • Don’t try to persuade them to go with your idea
  • Some Visionaries can be big on ideas while weak on execution
    • Make sure you are making a executable plan – with steps – and deadlines
    • Make sure to have a follow up process – be clear on who is responsible for what
  • Some Visionaries struggle to prioritize people over progress
    • You will most likely need to lead change at a slower pace than you desire
  • Some Visionaries struggle with longevity in ministry
    • Revi/replanting takes 5-7 years – stick it out
    • Don’t lead the church to make a major change and then bail


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The guys wrap up this series on overcoming resistance to change in a local church. This episode the guys focus on leadership.  By way of reminder, here is the change equation;

Holy Discontent + Vision + First Steps + Leadership > Resistance to Change

Leadership: a called, qualified and committed leader who navigates dangers, threats, challenges to the accomplishment of the vision-keeping the congregation united and focused and moving forward.

The leader can be a pastor or a group of lay leaders, we think churches are led best with a plurality of leaders who are often called Elders.

A key point is that whenever you, as a leader, encounter resistance to change you have to go back to vision. This is the key to renewing and reminding the people why you are there and what God has called you to do.

Resistance to Change: Any word, threat or act designed to derail, intimidate, slow or upend forward progress toward the accomplishment of God’s revealed vision

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EPISODE #81 – Holy Discontentment – Overcoming Resistance to Change

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EPISODE #81 - Holy Discontentment - Overcoming Resistance to Change

JimBo and Bob discuss the importance of holy discontentment in overcoming resistance to change.

Holy Discontent + Vision + First Steps + Leadership > Resistance to Change

Holy Discontent – The unquenchable Spirit-Initiated conviction that things are not as they should be–and that must change.


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EPISODE #69 – Leading Self, Others and Team in Pursuing The Kingdom of God

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EPISODE #69 - Leading Self, Others and Team in Pursuing The Kingdom of God

Bob and Jimbo spend time breaking down one of the 6 Irreducible minimums, Pursuing the Kingdom of God via the PITO Leadership model from the Officer Development School of the US Air Force. Yeah, we know it sounds kinda well…..just give it a listen, we promise you’ll laugh and be informed.

Personally: spiritual practices that bring about the rule and reign of God in your life.

Interpersonally: making disciples in the context of relationships in everyday life.

Team: consider those with whom you led ministry, are they growing spiritually and are we functioning as the body of Christ? Are we surrendering our agenda to the Lord’s agenda?

Organizationally: are we as a church pursuing Kingdom principles and priorities rather than simply just doing the same old same.

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Episode #39 – The Importance of Self-Awareness

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Episode #39 - The Importance of Self-Awareness

The guys began the conversation on the 13 Characteristics of a Replanter/Revitalizer by unpacking Self-Awareness. In future episodes they will walk through the rest of the characteristics.


Of all the characteristics, Self-Awareness is foundational to pastoring whether you are a Replanter or Revitalizer.


Crisis provides a great opportunity to develop self-awareness.


He shepherded them with a pure heart
and guided them with his skillful hands.  Psalm 78:72


Ministry is a work of the Holy Spirit-your skill is important but you must be aware of your ultimate dependence on the Holy Spirit.


The greater your skills and gifting the greater the challenge for you personally to rely on your abilities and not the Holy Spirit.


One of the important aspects of self-awareness is understanding that God designed you uniquely. God also places people with other gifting and strengths who will compliment your ministry.  Embrace them as part of God’s design for your ministry.


Your strengths will help you be successful in an aspect of your ministry, not the entirety of your ministry.


Your home of origin impacts your life and ministry. Becoming self-aware of how that creates challenges and conflict is vitally important. Do the hard work of exploring your hope of origin dynamics.  We recommend, How We Love by Milan and Kay Yurkovich.


Ministry is painful because it creates


Jimbo share this quote from Tennessee Williams: There comes a time when you look into the mirror and you realize that what you see is all that you will ever be.  When that happens, you either kill yourself or stop looking in mirrors.


Accepting how God designed you is key to embracing your role in ministry. Find a good personality test like the DISC, get the results and understand your strengths and weaknesses.


One caution-some personality tests suggest that if you are not a certain type of personality. We do not believe that to be the case. Our observational experience has revealed that any personality type can successfully replant a church-with the understanding how their strengths and weaknesses impact their leadership.




Episode #38 – Leading Well in Racial/Ethnic Tension with Dr. James Hawkins

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Episode #38 - Leading Well in Racial/Ethnic Tension with Dr. James Hawkins

Last week the guys talked with Dr. James Hawkins about how to lead during times of racial tension. As Replanters/Pastors understanding the perspective of our African American congregants, community members and friends is imperative.

Q: As a white pastor with a predominately white congregation how do we lead well in this time of racial tension?

Dr. Hawkins: Some of the reason why we are where we are is because of past sin-we have to understand that. Today, the lines of segregation are still evident in many of our communities even after civil rights victories. In the church, we (Black and White Christians) have not done theology together and not dealt with our shared past trauma together. We’ve also not been equipped to handle this, in many ways we were set up for this moment-the question is now, what will we do with this moment? We have to equip and disciple each other to see these ethnic moments thru the lens of scripture. Here are some helpful questions:

How has my particular ethnic group read and understand scripture related to the kingdom of heaven?

Do I know what I don’t know? (where are my blindspots)

Q: How does a pastor lead a congregation that is reluctant to explore their own biases?

Dr. Hawkins: First, we have to acknowledge that exploring the unknown is scary-we have a natural reaction to avoid what we don’t know. We have to grow to understand the importance of seeking and seeing the kingdom of God over and above ourselves. As Pastors we need to validate our congregations reluctance and defensiveness-but we also have continue to lead toward the kingdom of God.  Be patient with yourself and your congregation. Honor their fear but also ask them communicate their hopes.

Q: What is healing conversations?

Dr. Hawkins: It is a gathering of churches/people to intentionally jump into the deep end in dealing with the pain and problem of racial tension in the church. We facilitate conversations so people can find healing, help and hope and move forward.


Check out these helpful resources:

Watch the Healing Conversations video mentioned in the Podcast.

Listen to more from Dr. Hawkins on his podcast, A More Excellent Way.

Dr. Hawkins’ Book Recommendation: The Color of Compromise by Jemar Tisby

Episode #28 – SPECIAL GUEST Les McKeown, Author of Predictable Success

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Episode #28 - SPECIAL GUEST Les McKeown, Author of Predictable Success

Leader, author and business expert Les McKeown stopped by the bootcamp to share his insights regarding life cycles of organizations and churches.  The guys talked to Les about we need to know as we navigate the new realities of doing and being the church during Covid19.


Consult the overview and glossary of terms as you listen along: Predictable Success Overview

Biblical Background: Ephesians 4:11-16


The Predictable Success Model is about recognizing what happens in organizations-Les added vocabulary and codified what happens in each stage.

The stages: Early Struggle, Fun, Whitewater, Predictable Success, Treadmill, The Big Rut, Death Rattle.

For new things to grow (i.e. campuses, church plants) they must go through the stages on their own-organically.

On the Treadmill stage: this is a dangerous stage-it is the last of the seven that you can do anything about. If you can challenge, push back you can move back into predictable success.

On the Big Rut stage: all the Visionaries have typically left and the Synergists are keeping everyone happy. It is a lovely place to work-but you are in danger.

In the Church world: the Visionary may stick around until they retire-leadership gets handed off to someone else without a thought about what could happen to the vision and the church begins to struggle.

When a church is in the “big rut” or “death rattle” you have to jump back to early struggle in order to restart.  In the for profit world-you have to “decapitate” or completely change the leadership at the top.

What are some key characteristics of the leaders who can bring life back to an organization either in the business or the church world?

  • In the for profit world that individual typically has the VO (Visionary/Operator) or VP (Visionary/Processor) style.
  • In the not for profit or church world that individual typically has the VS (Visionary/Synergist) or OS (Operator/Synergist) 

A key insight:a Synergist finds the people decisions to be very difficult. So they struggle in making the hard decisions involving people.


Covid19 Applications 

During a crisis or major event, the force of that event will push you down the side of the curve on which your organization finds itself. 

If you just recently started something-you may want to press pause

If you are on the decline side, the force will push you down toward the Big Rut or Death.

You have to relearn to innovate.

Statement from Les: if you are one of the older established churches that has been saying that online worship is (insert negative comment) you better rethink that very quickly.

The depth of permanent behavioral change that this crisis is creating and will create is going to fundamentally change everything about the way we do what we do. 

For instance: online communication via zoom will only accelerate and change the way we interact. This will impact the way people interact and do church. 

If your organization is struggling you need to find and let Visionaries lead and find Operators to help them implement the vision.


Q: What is the importance of identifying Leaders/Lay Leaders in your church or organization?

Start with the Visionary: let that person select their leadership team who are Operators. This is not a true leadership team-it is a group of enablers who can make the vision happen. 

During Whitewater: develop a true leadership team, you need people who possess strategic capabilities who can help you navigate the complexities of this stage. At this point you need Processors who can help the organization move forward. This is the stage where you begin to experience conflict on the team and this requires the team develop Synergist skills and stay committed to the Kingdom goals.

If you want to have fun, and stay at the mom and pop level you just need Visionaries and Operators (and a few mini-Processors to keep things legal)

If you want to scale and grow, you have to have Visionaries, Operators, Processors and Synergists working together.  A VOPS model.

Predictable Success by Les McKeown


Episode #7 – How NOT to Build a Lasting Elder Team

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Episode #7 - How NOT to Build a Lasting Elder Team

In a Replant high capacity and qualified leaders are likely to be in short supply.

Don’t let the urgent need for leaders be a primary driving process for your seeking to install Elders.

Do not confuse excitement and enthusiasm as good indicators that you may have found the right person to engage as a leader.

The past church experiences of the leaders you are considering installing as leaders matters, do not ignore conflict that occured in previous churches. Discern the circumstances, issues and let that inform your decision regarding their leadership.

An Elder process is important-develop one and stick to it.

Elders share the load and burden of ministry.  It is important to develop leaders/elders who work together, especially when you as a Replanter are needing help or hurting.

Lessons Learned

  1. Go slow 
  2. Give them some weight to bear-some guys just want to give advice rather than serve.
  3. Never give someone a position of leadership if they are not already serving.
  4. Spend time together as families, dinners, and parties. Observe how they interact with their spouse and children.
  5. Give them an area of ministry to lead, especially leading others.
  6. If you have pause or question regarding an Elder candidate, stop the process.
  7. Pray with and consult with your spouse regarding the candidates you are considering for Elders.
  8. Don’t install an Elder unless and until you have a conflict or disagreement with them and have resolved it successfully. 


Church Elders by Jeraime Rinne

Biblical Eldership by Alexander Strauch

The Trellis and the Vine by Colin Marshall and Tony Payne

The Shepherd Leader by Timothy Whitmer

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